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B rock
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 06:41 PM (Msg. 1 of 70)
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After a blowout this week-end I used the opportunity to go to the Darkside set-up. Bought a 195/65-15 Bridgestone Potenza G009 directional performance tire.
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tireselector/SearchBySize_BS_EN.aspx?Size=195/65R15
I only rode it about 20 miles after picking the bike up but so far I'm impressed 
I believe idle speed stability is improved as well as slow speed turning improved. I had the installer put 32#'s of air in it for starters, any in-put on this would be appreciated.
I'm going to run it for a week to see if it has any quirks that concern me. If none then I'm going to buy another tire and have it whitewalled. If I do that I'll have this rim and tire for sale or E-Bay as I have a stock tire and rim assembly coming fom e-bay.
I need to say after reading all the stuff about tires in this forum for two years, I have absolutely no complaints on the Bridgestones that came on this bike. I have 9500 miles on the originals and the front looks new and the rear was showing minimal wear. The blow-out I had was a road hazard deal that put a clean hole in the tire it was not a defect.
 Edited by B rock on Oct 3, 2007 at 05:25 PM
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R2COBB
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 06:48 PM (Msg. 2 of 70)
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Play in the area of 36-40 psi...........................I settled on 38 for general over all happiness.
It will also depend on your set up..........things like rear shock preload and type of springs and preload in the front.
Enjoy the light, but remember those who fought in darkness.
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Truderville
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 07:00 PM (Msg. 3 of 70)
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What Bull Said.....38 should be spot on 
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B rock
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 07:18 PM (Msg. 4 of 70)
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What made you decide to go so high on pressure?
32# actually felt pretty stiff to me, but then I also have no clue 
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R2COBB
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 07:27 PM (Msg. 5 of 70)
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Quote:B rock wrote:
What made you decide to go so high on pressure?
32# actually felt pretty stiff to me, but then I also have no clue
For the same reason I run the front at the same range..........better handling and tire life.
Enjoy the light, but remember those who fought in darkness.
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B rock
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 07:56 PM (Msg. 6 of 70)
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Quote:R2COBB wrote:
For the same reason I run the front at the same range..........better handling and tire life.
I was running 38/38 also, I thought lower pressure on the big radial may give me more footprint and side wall deflection in turns 
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 08:17 PM (Msg. 7 of 70)
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Quote:B rock wrote:
I was running 38/38 also, I thought lower pressure on the big radial may give me more footprint and side wall deflection in turns
Like I said, you'll need to plat around with it until you're happy. I don't know where your preload is on your shocks or how you ride so you may be just right for your set up at 32.
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 08:23 PM (Msg. 8 of 70)
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im thinking of changing to something new, my rear dunlop is all but done at around 7k. what Bridgestone tire would one recomend for a vs800?
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Plowboy
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 10:59 PM (Msg. 9 of 70)
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I run 32 solo and 35 2-up this is on a 1400  Edited by Plowboy on Oct 2, 2007 at 11:00 PM
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Posted: Oct 2, 2007 11:16 PM (Msg. 10 of 70)
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Quote:Plowboy wrote:
I run 32 solo and 35 2-up this is on a 1400
Edited by Plowboy on Oct 2, 2007 at 11:00 PM
A bit of difference in weight isn`t there Perry.....................
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 07:27 AM (Msg. 11 of 70)
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35 in the front(404) and 37 in the back(Falken) works best for me.
11,000 miles and its showing very little wear.
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 10:18 AM (Msg. 12 of 70)
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Quote:striker wrote: im thinking of changing to something new, my rear dunlop is all but done at around 7k. what Bridgestone tire would one recomend for a vs800?
None. If youre going to stick with MC tires, try Avons, Metzlers, just about anything OTHER than Brick-stones. If youre considering going to the DS, brand isnt key, so much as finding the right size to fit. Its tought to find an automotive tire similar to the 14/90-15 that comes on the 800.
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Yogi88h
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 11:39 AM (Msg. 13 of 70)
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I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks the Bridgestones are ok. Where did you have the DS mounted? Did the fender have to come off? I'm thinking that when the time comes I will go DS also, but I KNOW I can't take it to my dealer to install it. They get the shakes when I use Rotella in the C90. They think ONLY OEM will do or we'll all go to hell in a Vespa.
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B rock
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 11:56 AM (Msg. 14 of 70)
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Quote:striker wrote:
im thinking of changing to something new, my rear dunlop is all but done at around 7k. what Bridgestone tire would one recomend for a vs800?
Not sure what you are asking, staying with MC or thinking about DS?
Regardless: this link will help you on size, skip the box at the top and go down further and you can eter your MC size and compare it to automotive. The box up top is auto only.
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
For what it's worth, I had BS's on two bikes and would not hesitate to buy them, if I needed a front right now I would replace it with the OEM BS's.
I added this later, I only looked for directional tires, they look cooler and it puts both outside tread areas going the same direction. not important on a car but I believe a good thing on a bike. Edited by B rock on Oct 3, 2007 at 12:02 PM
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B rock
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 12:00 PM (Msg. 15 of 70)
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Quote:Yogi88h wrote:
I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who thinks the Bridgestones are ok. Where did you have the DS mounted? Did the fender have to come off? I'm thinking that when the time comes I will go DS also, but I KNOW I can't take it to my dealer to install it. They get the shakes when I use Rotella in the C90. They think ONLY OEM will do or we'll all go to hell in a Vespa.
I found a small shop just outside of town that had no problem, had done many in the past.
I let them do the whole thing, nothing involved other than normal. The 195/65-15 really isn't that much different in size other than the tread is flat other than radiused.
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striker
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 12:03 PM (Msg. 16 of 70)
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Quote:Mr. Different wrote:
None. If youre going to stick with MC tires, try Avons, Metzlers, just about anything OTHER than Brick-stones. If youre considering going to the DS, brand isnt key, so much as finding the right size to fit. Its tought to find an automotive tire similar to the 14/90-15 that comes on the 800.
thanks mr. different, what have you had the best luck with? im sure alot depends on how you ride, but that tire only lasted the summer (6,500miles) is that about right? ive got a d404 on it now
thanks. 
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B rock
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 05:27 PM (Msg. 17 of 70)
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Pics of the results
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Truderville
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 07:47 PM (Msg. 18 of 70)
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Quote:Yogi88h wrote: Did the fender have to come off?
I installed my DS myself and didn't have to remove the fender. I have a MC jack and I was able to jack the bike up enough to get the tire/wheel in the wheel well with the fender in place. It is important to have the bike supported real well on the jack and having at least one person to help. You DON'T want an LC1500 on top of you....
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 08:32 PM (Msg. 19 of 70)
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Quote:B rock wrote:
Pics of the results
Welcome to the Dark Side. 
That is a NICE looking tire!
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B rock
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Posted: Oct 3, 2007 08:36 PM (Msg. 20 of 70)
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Quote:OpusX wrote:
Welcome to the Dark Side.
That is a NICE looking tire!
Thanks, but I miss my whitewalls. 
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